The meeting runs long. Everyone shares updates. Good conversation happens.

And then no decision is actually made.

Not because the conversation was bad or the people were unprepared. Not because the agenda was wrong. The meeting ends, the next meeting goes on the calendar for a month out, and the same topics will be back on it.

I have been in that meeting dozens of times - in parishes, in diocesan offices, in Catholic foundations, in nonprofits. The particular shape varies, the underlying pattern does not.

There are two versions of the failure that I keep seeing.

The first I see at the parish level: A staff meeting runs for an hour and forty minutes. Everyone goes around - the business manager on finance, the DRE on formation, the youth minister on upcoming events, the music director on choir needs, the maintenance coordinator on building items, the principal on upcoming events at the school. Each person updates on things that are important to them and marginal to the others. There is fun commentary and there are side conversations with the occasional joke. The meeting runs long, but nothing of actual import gets considered or decided.

The second I see at the diocesan level: Four or five senior people in a room, having a genuinely productive conversation about a real problem. The thinking is good, the disagreements are respectful, and everyone contributes. And then ninety minutes later, the meeting ends - and nobody can tell you what was decided, who owns the next step, or when that next step is due.

Both end the same way: Another meeting on the calendar in a month. The same conversation.

The problem is not that these are bad meetings. The parish staff meeting is friendly and functional. The diocesan conversation is thoughtful and substantive. The problem is that in both rooms, nobody owns the discipline of landing a decision. Not the pastor, or the vicar general, or the executive director. It is not that someone is doing the job badly. It is  just that the job has not been assigned.

I have watched this pattern from two frames: As a deacon who sits in parish staff meetings and other diocesan rooms, and as someone who spent thirty years in corporate America in media, marketing, and technology consulting, where landing a decision - and tracking what happened after - was the essential water everyone swam in.

Here is what landing a decision actually requires - not much, but it has to be deliberate:

Four questions:

What was decided?

Who owns it?

What is the next step?

By when?

It takes about ninety seconds per topic. It feels like it is slowing the meeting down. Over the course of a year, it is the difference between an institution that moves and one that does not.

But the four questions are only half of it.

The other half is a person whose job it is to manage the list between meetings. Someone who writes the decisions down, follows up with the owners when it is clear a next step has not moved, raises a flag when a decision is being quietly reversed by inaction, and walks into the next meeting with the list in hand - so the first question of that meeting is always: what happened with the decisions we made last time?

That role exists in corporate contexts under many names: Project manager. Program manager. Chief of Staff. Operations lead. In a management-consulting engagement, it is often the principal consultant playing it quietly from a seat at the table while the client runs the meeting.

I have held this role in various forms across most of my career - as a project manager, a program manager, a chief of staff, and as the outside consultant quietly playing it from a seat at the table. I have also run a company day-to-day as a COO using the Entrepreneurial Operating System, which is a specific methodology designed for small-to-mid-size organizations. I would not recommend lifting it wholesale into any particular Catholic institution. But everywhere I have looked in the Church since - parishes, chanceries, diocesan foundations - I have been able to imagine a modified version of it fitting that specific place and that specific team. The methodology and its concepts are adaptable. What is missing is not a system. What is missing is the discipline underneath the system, and the person whose job it is to hold that discipline.

In most Catholic institutions I have been in, that role does not exist and no one takes the essential aspects of it as their own. The pastor or business manager is leading the meeting. The bookkeeper is reporting on finance. The DRE is reporting on formation. The communications director is reporting on reach. Everyone has a lane. No one has the horizontal lane that tracks what the room decided and whether anything happened. And so, predictably, less happens than the people in that room think is happening.

This is not a corporate skill being imposed on the Church. It is stewardship - of the time, the attention, and the trust of the people who gave their Thursday evening to the meeting. Making a decision and ensuring action happens honors what they gave. Failing to make one wastes it. The small discipline is not a management technique. It is a specific act of charity to everyone else in the room.

The pattern I keep seeing is not that Catholic institutions are badly run. It is that nobody has made the simple structural choice to assign the discipline of decision-tracking to somebody. The methodologies for doing this well are available. The vocabulary is available. The role, under a dozen possible names, is a known thing.

What is missing is the decision to assign it.

Which is, interestingly, exactly the kind of decision these meetings keep not making.

In fieri. Ad alta.

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